I found a description of the Genius monsters from the Nuctemeron floating around the internet while trying to come up with some Genii of my own for that fanfic I was talking about earlier. Aside from the analysis of the text itself, it gives a brief descriptor of each Genius and which hour it appears in. Link is here . Might be worthwhile to replace the broken link that we have in the Genius wiki entry.
Now all I have to do is play dice and pray to RNG that the unused Genius monsters I end up using won't be used by Touno-sensei in the future!
You might remember me as theACEbabana from the Tumblr asks I've posted, and I have come here to pose a lengthy question that would be impossible to put through the regular channel. I'm trying to map out the Land of Wen, specifically the Adventurer cities, for a fanfic I plan to write. After referencing the updated map (with correct political boundaries) that Mamare approved, I've tried to find the real-world correspondants to the sixteen Adventurer cities in Wen. Here's what I've got so far, and I would very much appreciate any opinions you have.
Big Apple (New York City)
South Angels (Los Angeles)
Dixie (Charleston) [This one I'm a bit iffy on given how Columbia could also be a vyable city]
Boulder (Boulder, Colorodo)
Cajun (Baton Rouge)
Great Lakes (Milwaukee)
Jean Drapeau (Montreal)
Ekechi 51 (Area 51)
Twin Bays (San Fransisco)
Chasta (Portland) [Another city I'm iffy on. It could also be Vancouver.]
 Dixie used to be Austin, but apparently some /a/nons from Texas complained that Dixie wasn't in the area ... so it got moved. But according to Mamare, Dixie's real-world Austin. Cascadia is Vancouver, I think?
Sorry to interrupt. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in. Cascadia does seem to be Vancouver, if it's placement on the map is to be believed.
Montreal makes sense for Jean Drapeau (concidering there's a parc (island) in Montreal called Jean Drapeau) but it's location is wrong on the map. The star looks located a little north east of Toronto (which is Canada's largest city), Montreal is a lot further east. Though if Dixie is suppsed to be Austin, Texis... then I guess anything can go. XD
@DQueenie13: Yes please! I would very much appreciate that. And I have seen the pastebin post before. I got some background information on the regions in Wen from there. And regarding the whole Dixie issue...Texas is considered to be a (fringe) part of it from what I see on the Wikipedia article regarding the subject. It would be more accurate to have a city named Dixie further eastward in Alabama or Georgia, but it ultimately comes down to Mamare's call. I'll change Dixie to Texas, though it does seem a bit wierd to have no Adventurer city in between Brotherhood and Marsh. Seems like quite the difficult trek to make.
Vancouver as Cascadia makes more sense than Abbortsford.
(I'm actually considering commissioning an artist I know to make a real nice-looking map when I've finished collecting information and world-building the Land of Wen. That's why I want everything to be impeccable. Some of his maps are on display here .)
@Ashleyien: Thanks for your input. It's greatly appreciated. As someone that's only visited Canada once, I'm not to familiar with our northern neighbors or their cities.
I feel like Washington DC would be a nice place to add a Shibuya-like Player City, where it's really just a terminal to travel around. Maybe certain special annual events can occur there, but it's not really a place where players stay.
I can't see the thread, by the way, since I'd have to register to see them.
Maybe Jean Drapeau was meant to encompass both Toronto & Montreal (they're about a 5 hour drive apart and are Canada's two largest cities... Vancouver being the 3rd largest). Name-wise, it makes sense that it's Montreal, but Toronto is the city most people seem to know about, since it's the largest (and Torontonians seem to think it's the only important city in the country).
I'm Canadian, from that area, and have been to both Montreal & Toronto several times.
@DQueenie: Whoops. Here's a link to the guy's DeviantArt gallery . He stores his commissions there also. As for DC, I had something in mind for the plot of my story. It was once a great city before the Alv Princess of Wen exacted her revenge. Now, it is a crumbled ruin, home to many high level monsters (upwards of 85) and a raiding zone dungeon.
@Ashleyein: I was thinking of making Toronto a Lander city. Really big-name cities that aren't already Adventurer cities are gonna get turned into Lander cities. Like Boston.
If its ok that someone besides LHFF and Ash chimes in on this conversation, I did make an updated server map that contains the proper political boundries along with an additional player-city which happens to be the one you guys were talking about, Washington DC that I have named The Columbian Commonwealth, obviously it is just the District of Columbia, I was looking at the real world map and I thought it'd make a really great Player-City, it is mostly just for my personal fanfic, but I thought I'd chime in and inform that its a thing if that helps you any @TheACEbabana.
Alrighty, I'll crawl back into my hole now, sorry for inserting myself into you guy's conversation. :L
Addition: @TheACEbabana I'm kinda working on Wen stuff myself, I find great enjoyment out of world building. All my stuff is on my Tumblr, if that is something you use and would like to see, I don't really have much, but it is there and I'm always adding something to it little by little. http://loggedonhorizon.tumblr.com/
Also sorry for the plug of myself! Just wanna help a fellow LH fan. :x
@Loggedonhorizon: Thanks for the input. You needn't feel bad for jumping in. I'm always for other people's oppinions, especially when it comes to worldbuilding. I'm currently mapping out a lore specific for Wen, factoring in the expansion packs and time difference. It's quite the challenge, but one that I'm enjoying immensely.
One thing though: what program did you use to make the map?
Oh the colored one for the server isn't mine, MapGuy made that, I think LHFF knows him. But for the edit I just opened it in GIMP 2 to edit it for political borders and adding my own city. Pretty sure this is the right mapguy https://twitter.com/aka_nightingaie
Made an account here since you said it'd be easier to talk here instead of constantly putting asks in your inbox.
I've been being super lazy and not really working on anything for my stuff in a long while, but I picked up working on a bit today, was thinking about an odd thing that I'm sure is pretty irrelivant and a very few amount of people would care about. It's how the People of the Land keep track of time, since Adventurers have our real calander, but i was curious if you ever remember seeing anything about how they kept track of time or what they call their months/seasons, cause I can assume they don't call them the same as ours and to make a fan timeline for Wen I was thinking I really needed to find if they had any sort of calander system of their own or if I should just make my own, which is going to be quite the task seeing as that is probably what I'm going to have to do.
EDIT: While I'm looking through the Chronology of Log Horizon, thinking mainly in the perspective of being a Person of the Land, I gotta say they were extremely progressive colonists seeing as from 300 years before the catastrophe they leave Yureddo to Wen, but after landing there is only 60 years inbetween them landing on a whole new, unexplored, unknown contienent and the Elder Tales beta launching followed, I'm sure even though it isn't listed, the official launch of the game.. So in 60 years they colonized the east coast, west coast and other spots along the way.. For me, trying to write the "lore" and build the world of Wen, it seems...difficult to say the least. 60 Years to colonize a whole contient, with multiple empires, noble families, religions, trade routes, etc. Just seems like its going to be an unbelievable challenge to write any kind of lore for Wen with such a short time span inbetween their landing in Wen and when players would see the game world. Again this is coming from the idea of a Person of the Lands perspective, not a game dev saying "oh well..idk they just did it, its a game, yada yada".
I guess basically what do you think about all that? I mean I imagine they must have decent technology and such since the Alvs did exist and since they destroyed the alves they clearly, and i think its been mentioned before, have some of their technology which was so far advanced it caused them to kill the Alvs, so I suppose depending on what that technology they took from the Alvs was, they had the capabilities to spread across a whole new continent and establish lords, kings, empires, etc in a span of 60 years.
Holy shit, I completely missed this during all my editing.
From what it seems, Landers use the same/highly similar calendar. There's been no mention of them having a different measurement of time. (That, or they don't use specific measurements and instead go by "feel", or get accustomed to certain annual events like Halloween, Snowfell, Summerfell, etc.)
You're forgetting something -- not all the Adventurer Cities appeared at once. Which likely means that areas may not have been well-developed at the initial release, and were expanded on as the game grew. They might have only started with two player cities, and a limited amount of dungeons/developed areas. Around 24 years after Adventurers appeared, the first expansion pack was released -- perhaps the Landers managed to (somewhat permanently) push back the monster hordes and set up colonies/towns/etc. there as the Adventurers pressed on as well.
The Ancients also suddenly spawned after the Landers moved to Wen, so they could also have assisted in defeating monster hordes, which are likely the biggest deterrents to colonization. Furthermore, I'm quite certain that there had to be some Landers already living on the continent -- otherwise, since the Six Scrapped Princess were living throughout the world. The Land of Wen is an entire continent, and not just the North American server (the NA server is North Wen). So there may have been some small pockets of indigenous peoples living there already when the Yureddo settlers came.
I completely forgot about the Ancients.. Also didn't occur to me the whole, things weren't already there, dunno what I WAS thinking. I agree that SOMEONE had to have been living in Wen before the Yureddo colonies came, theres just no way there wasn't. As you've mentioned before with the NA company that manages their version of Elder Tales, the way they make it sound is that there either really wasn't anyone in Wen (extremely unlikely) or that they are disregarding the Indians existance before the English settlers came. I feel that it's either just a side effect of nowhere but Yamato being the focus of the main story and Mamare just wasn't really putting that much thought into it and it doesn't actually mean anything or that, lets say if this game was real, the in-game lore might be reflecting how the English settlers treated the Indians, killing them, stealing from them and generally regarding them as lesser creatures. Though, again since the focus was on Yamato for the actual story, I think its just something that was looked at as not important enough to look over for "sensitivity" or politcal correctness or whatever, not for Mamare anyways.
But if we were going to go with the idea that Elder Tales was real, I'd think that it was probably just a reflection of English settlers views on the Indians rather than the NA company being racists. Since Elder Tales, the world, is a future version of what would be real history, than it's quite likely that it is just that.
Or I could just be spittin shit out of my mouth completely and its really just nothing at all besides a lack of detail for a place that wasn't even slightly part of the main story. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ADDITION: Speaking of the ancients, I was thinking of a pretty neat side story involving the Black Hills area that may contain some of these "none existing pre-Yureddo settlers". From the little info from your Areas of Interest section it seemed neat enough to maybe write a good side story out of. Though I really need to get to just writing my main story at all first. So much laziness. Still trying to work on names which seem to be more difficult than anything else in the whole of writing.
Yeah, things like that are why I said it's best to take North Wen lore/happenings into our own hands instead of leaving it to Mamare. I also doubt that Japanese people learn enough about American history to know what are sensitive topics over in the US.
Yeah..I suppose, I just like to always remain aware of these things, god knows someone is always trying to screw others over for more profit. I'm sure some people will suffer if it passes though. I'm just a paranoid person, heh. I'm always thinking "ok so when is the fbi gonna knock on my door for watching the monster girl anime?" haha
Hey Dequenn i just realised something....everyone has been stuck in the game for at least a year as the 1 year anniversary of them being trapped there has already been stated...so should we update the ages of those we know?
I noticed that on the main character pages there's a subpage navigation, and it kinda looks awkward when it has to go to the next line. I was thinking that maybe it should be centered at the top of the page? I was just going to do it but thought it was a large enough change that I should ask permission for it.
You're talking about Template:CharaPageHeader, right? I've noticed the break on mobile (it doesn't do that for me on a normal browser), and I haven't really figured out how to orient it. I'll play around with it, though.
Since you know a lot about LH I was wondering if the creator has said anything about main classes creation periods. As in if some of the classes were added later on in the games lifetime or not. I find it interesting in the way there are 12 classes in the game yet most modern MMO's only have around 8 or so at most.