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DQueenie13

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  • Hello, Thank you for your hard work on this Wiki.

    It's been a really long while since I looked at this wiki and I noticed there isn't any relationship pages (I could have sworn there used to be???)?? Is there a reason for this? Could I add relationship pages?

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    • You remembered correctly!

      Since I'm more or less the sole contributor to the Wiki, I decided a few weeks back that the Relationship pages were just too high maintenance for one person to take care of: Some people have a lot of content while others would have basically none, it's too prone to subjective opinion, and too easy for people to spam/mess around.

      I'm barely keeping up with main articles (Class pages are far from being complete), and I figured that Relationship pages just weren't practical when they were barely being edited and, when they were, were being filled with highly subjective content.

      For now, I'll ask that you hold off on recreating Relationship pages.

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    • Ah ok thank you. Is there anything I could do to contribute?

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    • The biggest thing I can think of is going through the Synopsis of each character and expanding on them? I know I've been neglecting those parts a lot.

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  • Say DCQueenie,

    I've been wondering and I didn't know who else to ask, and I apologize if any of this offends you:

    It's about Adventurers after the Catastrophe

    Do they age and grow or do they stay the same as they are when they were first brought to Elder Tales?

    I feel like they could physically grow and age, since Nyanta's discovery of Real Food Preparation turns out to cause Adventurers to gain weight, which indicates Adventurers can physically change in a natural way other than a way dictated by the game

    Tohya and Minori look a little different in the Season 2 Anime of Log Horizon, a tad more matured facially compared to how they looked in Season 1, and Tohya even looks a tad taller

    Also, I read somewhere that Demiqas' guild, Brigandia, sold NPCs and Adventurers into slavery and even engaged in rape

    It also makes me wonder... Could Adventurers have children in the Elder Tales world through intercourse? Demiqas married a Lander, Upashi, which also begs the question if Adventurers and Landers could have children together and what the children from such a union would be; whether they are adventurers, landers, or even some new type of being


    So what do you think? What are your thoughts on these sorts of subjects in Log Horizon?

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    • Not enough time has passed to tell if Adventurers age. However, hair grows at a normal rate. For the kids' group, I feel like their "matured" art styles are more symbolic (and also the result of art evolution for Hara/artist change for the anime) than literal.

      As for children, at this moment, children between Adventurer and Lander hasn't been possible/hasn't been seen. However, Landers have had children after the Catastrophe, but only with other Landers. Whether there can be an Adventurer-Lander child has yet to be seen.

      (For the sake of my own fic, I said that Adventurer-Lander children are still Landers, but in terms of EXP gain and abilities are more like an Adventurer-Lander hybrid.)

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    • Thanks for indulging my nitpicking XD

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  • I'm curious about Plant Hywaden, Nureha, and Indicus

    I know Nureha has an obsession with Shiro while Indicus was a member of the Debauchery Tea Party and possibly the most unlikeable member

    I've seen spoilers that Nureha has rebelled against Indicus and started a civil war in Minami between those siding with Nureha and those allied with Indicus

    I also know Eins of Honesty turned traitor by spying for Nureha, which led to the collapse of the Round Table and Eins going into self-imposed exile

    As Nureha owns all the major structures in Minami, she can blacklist anyone from those structures, including the Cathedral which prevents Players who died from resurrecting there and leaving them trapped in that place they go between death and the Cathedral

    If that's so, why doesn't she destroy Indicus by doing the same to her? Blacklist that petty and despicable woman and then kill her and leave trapped in that little limbo? Nureha is the guild mistress of Hywaden, so while Indicus has her psycholigical number Nureha still holds power over her


    I dunno, I just wanna discuss the unfolding events

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    • I suspect that ReGan was talking about the usage of Zeldys' Mana Breeder with Jered Gan's research to restart Minami's Transport Gate.

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    • Hmm, strong possiblity, and apparently Zeldys is a "the ends justify the means" type

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  • Hey DCQueenie

    I just saw the edit you made to the Log Horizon Guild article about the new members

    Who are Lelia (the Druid) and Litka (the Monk)? I tried looking for pics of them at the very least but found nothing

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    • They're both girls.

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    • Not to sound sexist or anything, but I was kinda hoping Litka the Monk would be a guy... but then again, they already have Naotsgu (the Guardian) and Tohya (the Samurai) as guys for the Warrior Classes in their guild

      Akatsuki (the Assassin), Isuzu (the Bard), and Nyanta (the Swashbuckler), their Weapon Specialist classes

      Minori (the Kannagi) and Tetora (the Cleric) and now Lelia (the Druid)... although we both know Tetora's really a guy IRL (I wonder if he/she is bisexual)

      That leaves Shiro (the Enchanter) and Rudy (the Sorcerer), and hopefully Roe2 (the Summoner)

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  • If multiple guardians cast anchor howl on the same aponant, would that mean if the target chooses one guardian the others get their free attack? (Watching big raid in S2 E9)

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    • Not sure. If two of them both attract a large amount of Hate, it's possible that they'll effectively cancel each other out. Alternatively, it'll turn out the way you said. There's not enough information to tell.

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  • Hey! So I was surfing through the Guild Meeting Hall page and you know how within Guilds, members can store items and whatnot and any guild members can access them too (the wording in that particular section about banks kind of threw me off, and a little infering on my part), well if Guilds can expand such that there are two or three members in each major city, can it become an effective method to transport goods and information ?

    And depending on the specific mechanics on how those items can be transferred from one city to another, could it mean people could be 'transferred' too ?? 

    Also, why couldn't Shiroe take all the money and items stored in the banks of players offline/not in the Catastrophe ? Especially when he had bought the Guild Meeting Hall. I assumed that Landers, who worked as secretaries/accountants at these banks could easily access Adventurer's banks given identity.

    And I'm actually kind of mad that Adventuers like, don't make a goddamn movie lengthy long book about everything they remember from the previous world so even if they do forget, they have a back up. I mean seriously. Or at least talk about their pathetic lives to friends so they can do the remembering on their behalfs. 

    //out before I start a rant

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    • You're right, I completely overlook that (!args). Scratching that off, I think there is still some leeway for rule-bending the banks: As mentioned in the first post, since guilds can transport goods from bank to bank, as long as the person withdrawing is a member of that guild, international guilds like 49ser can essentially set up a mass-communication network between cities and servers. Learn what's happening in other servers. Contact members not on the continent. Help execute a Fairy Ring expedition. What's your thoughts?

      Just read the article about the Kunie Clan. I guess Nureha wouldn't be able to access the banks either if she wantdr? Still, it could've been a good way to access rare items that could benefit the Adventurers, a method of law enforcement, and take items from alts (although it would be hard to prove an alt is someone's)

      Writing a self-journal would not go to waste, even if the memories are minor (tho I wouldn't consider forgetting my cat's name/face minor; I'd be devastated), because it builds on overtime. It's like a more prolonged case of Dementia. And even if you're lvl 90 Jesus or something, and there's little chance of you dying often, it won't be the same situation 100 years from then. It's like a "Forgot Password?" function on sites, or backing up a hard drive. You're probably not going to forget your "password" so soon, but it's still there in case. At least the major facts: your name, family, I don't know—the fucking laws of physics.

      Also, what happened to Antarctica ??? 

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    • I think that would work. You could pass on letters that way, as well as new/rare items from other continents.

      I'm still not completely sure how the banks work on Minami's side, and I know for a fact that the Kunie (at least, Kinjo) is wary of Westelande as a whole. So if they are in charge of Minami's banks, then it's unlikely that Nureha would be able to access those items.

      Antarctica doesn't have a significant enough population playing the game for a server to be located there. So any information about it is, as far as I'm aware, unknown. Haven't noticed any special events/quests from before the Catastrophe mentioned to be located there, either.

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  • I have been wondering for a while what this Overskill does, do you know?

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  • Thanks for editing my entries but why are you deleting entries that are not on the Log Horizon wiki?

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    • DQueenie13, why did you delete my entry on Shiroe's boots?  I know they're not big in the storyline but small details like that help flesh out his character and info.

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    • > I use the Yen Press books.

      Are you sure? You used the term "Briar Weasel" and "The Beginning of a New World", which are definitely from skythewood's translation. Yen Press/Yen On used "Brier Weasel" and "The Beginning of Another World".

      > RodLab

      By the way, Aomori is Blue Forest, who's already listed on there. Aomori is his real life name/nickname that Mikakage gave him.

      > Shiroe

      Yeah, I'm in the wrong here. My inclination was to not list it because there's basically no info about it and it wasn't part of any of his profiles, but as I went through some other pages, I realized that we listed their unnamed weapons. So I'll re-add the stuff about the boots, but I'm pretty sure the stuff you mentioned about his staff is already on the page.

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  • I was wondering if these two are actually the same subclass since Outlaw is basically another word for Fugitive and there is no overview on the Outlaw page while Fugitive doesn't have a page and appears only in the subclass page while fugitive does not appear, so are these two the same or is there a difference?

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    • They're different, at least according to the Japanese subclass doc. Outlaw is 無法者 while Fugitive is 逃亡者. Since most of the Japanese doc is actually fan-made (and then made canon later), it's quite possible that they created a distinction because Mamare never detailed the Outlaw subclass.

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    • Ok, what about the Animal Trainer and Tamer subclasses? They have different names but the same discription and Animal Trainer has a page but does not appear on the subclass page while it's the opposite for Tamer?

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    • I think an old version of the Subclasses doc got pasted into the Subclasses page. They're the same thing and either name works. I've edit the Subclasses page from Tamer > Animal Trainer.

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    • Ok, thanks for the info.

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  • Can you use the apprentice subclass to gain skills from several subclasses by having various teachers or by changing teachers or are you limited to having only one teacher and therefore be limited to having at most skills from 2 subclasses, the one you learned from and the one you choose after apprentice?

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    • I'll add it later, since there's more information that I haven't translated yet.

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    • Ok, thanks for the info.

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