Made an account here since you said it'd be easier to talk here instead of constantly putting asks in your inbox.
I've been being super lazy and not really working on anything for my stuff in a long while, but I picked up working on a bit today, was thinking about an odd thing that I'm sure is pretty irrelivant and a very few amount of people would care about. It's how the People of the Land keep track of time, since Adventurers have our real calander, but i was curious if you ever remember seeing anything about how they kept track of time or what they call their months/seasons, cause I can assume they don't call them the same as ours and to make a fan timeline for Wen I was thinking I really needed to find if they had any sort of calander system of their own or if I should just make my own, which is going to be quite the task seeing as that is probably what I'm going to have to do.
EDIT: While I'm looking through the Chronology of Log Horizon, thinking mainly in the perspective of being a Person of the Land, I gotta say they were extremely progressive colonists seeing as from 300 years before the catastrophe they leave Yureddo to Wen, but after landing there is only 60 years inbetween them landing on a whole new, unexplored, unknown contienent and the Elder Tales beta launching followed, I'm sure even though it isn't listed, the official launch of the game.. So in 60 years they colonized the east coast, west coast and other spots along the way.. For me, trying to write the "lore" and build the world of Wen, it seems...difficult to say the least. 60 Years to colonize a whole contient, with multiple empires, noble families, religions, trade routes, etc. Just seems like its going to be an unbelievable challenge to write any kind of lore for Wen with such a short time span inbetween their landing in Wen and when players would see the game world. Again this is coming from the idea of a Person of the Lands perspective, not a game dev saying "oh well..idk they just did it, its a game, yada yada".
I guess basically what do you think about all that? I mean I imagine they must have decent technology and such since the Alvs did exist and since they destroyed the alves they clearly, and i think its been mentioned before, have some of their technology which was so far advanced it caused them to kill the Alvs, so I suppose depending on what that technology they took from the Alvs was, they had the capabilities to spread across a whole new continent and establish lords, kings, empires, etc in a span of 60 years.
Holy shit, I completely missed this during all my editing.
From what it seems, Landers use the same/highly similar calendar. There's been no mention of them having a different measurement of time. (That, or they don't use specific measurements and instead go by "feel", or get accustomed to certain annual events like Halloween, Snowfell, Summerfell, etc.)
You're forgetting something -- not all the Adventurer Cities appeared at once. Which likely means that areas may not have been well-developed at the initial release, and were expanded on as the game grew. They might have only started with two player cities, and a limited amount of dungeons/developed areas. Around 24 years after Adventurers appeared, the first expansion pack was released -- perhaps the Landers managed to (somewhat permanently) push back the monster hordes and set up colonies/towns/etc. there as the Adventurers pressed on as well.
The Ancients also suddenly spawned after the Landers moved to Wen, so they could also have assisted in defeating monster hordes, which are likely the biggest deterrents to colonization. Furthermore, I'm quite certain that there had to be some Landers already living on the continent -- otherwise, since the Six Scrapped Princess were living throughout the world. The Land of Wen is an entire continent, and not just the North American server (the NA server is North Wen). So there may have been some small pockets of indigenous peoples living there already when the Yureddo settlers came.
I completely forgot about the Ancients.. Also didn't occur to me the whole, things weren't already there, dunno what I WAS thinking. I agree that SOMEONE had to have been living in Wen before the Yureddo colonies came, theres just no way there wasn't. As you've mentioned before with the NA company that manages their version of Elder Tales, the way they make it sound is that there either really wasn't anyone in Wen (extremely unlikely) or that they are disregarding the Indians existance before the English settlers came. I feel that it's either just a side effect of nowhere but Yamato being the focus of the main story and Mamare just wasn't really putting that much thought into it and it doesn't actually mean anything or that, lets say if this game was real, the in-game lore might be reflecting how the English settlers treated the Indians, killing them, stealing from them and generally regarding them as lesser creatures. Though, again since the focus was on Yamato for the actual story, I think its just something that was looked at as not important enough to look over for "sensitivity" or politcal correctness or whatever, not for Mamare anyways.
But if we were going to go with the idea that Elder Tales was real, I'd think that it was probably just a reflection of English settlers views on the Indians rather than the NA company being racists. Since Elder Tales, the world, is a future version of what would be real history, than it's quite likely that it is just that.
Or I could just be spittin shit out of my mouth completely and its really just nothing at all besides a lack of detail for a place that wasn't even slightly part of the main story. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ADDITION: Speaking of the ancients, I was thinking of a pretty neat side story involving the Black Hills area that may contain some of these "none existing pre-Yureddo settlers". From the little info from your Areas of Interest section it seemed neat enough to maybe write a good side story out of. Though I really need to get to just writing my main story at all first. So much laziness. Still trying to work on names which seem to be more difficult than anything else in the whole of writing.
Yeah, things like that are why I said it's best to take North Wen lore/happenings into our own hands instead of leaving it to Mamare. I also doubt that Japanese people learn enough about American history to know what are sensitive topics over in the US.
Yeah..I suppose, I just like to always remain aware of these things, god knows someone is always trying to screw others over for more profit. I'm sure some people will suffer if it passes though. I'm just a paranoid person, heh. I'm always thinking "ok so when is the fbi gonna knock on my door for watching the monster girl anime?" haha
Hey Dequenn i just realised something....everyone has been stuck in the game for at least a year as the 1 year anniversary of them being trapped there has already been stated...so should we update the ages of those we know?
I noticed that on the main character pages there's a subpage navigation, and it kinda looks awkward when it has to go to the next line. I was thinking that maybe it should be centered at the top of the page? I was just going to do it but thought it was a large enough change that I should ask permission for it.
You're talking about Template:CharaPageHeader, right? I've noticed the break on mobile (it doesn't do that for me on a normal browser), and I haven't really figured out how to orient it. I'll play around with it, though.
Since you know a lot about LH I was wondering if the creator has said anything about main classes creation periods. As in if some of the classes were added later on in the games lifetime or not. I find it interesting in the way there are 12 classes in the game yet most modern MMO's only have around 8 or so at most.
It's fine. I don't plan on adding them because a lot of them are technically fan-made. Mamare said "there's too many subclasses for me to think of myself," so a lot of the ones on the list don't have any official descriptions.
Hmm ... from my experience, such kinds of pages don't really work on wikis, mostly because it's really easy for people start spamming the page. The link to the document is actually in the comments section of the Subclasses page, I believe. I could perhaps link it somewhere on the article.
Ah, the top bar is something I have to do (since it requires Administrator privileges). As for the red text, Wikia has been weird lately, and it won't recognize that the page has been created until you hit 'Edit' and save without making any changes. I've done that for you.
Clean screenshots, good resolution (no heavy pixelation)
No redundant/overabundance of images (i.e. 600 pictures of Akatsuki in the same outfit, just standing around. The images should have some differences, whether they be her using a different skill, in a different outfit, doing something plot-relevant or in a plot-relevant screencap[For example, standing with Shiroe while he's watching the map during the Libra Festival would count], etc.)
No fan art (unless it's for a user page), although that one should be obvious.
The way I work, you should be expecting a rather large influx of images within the next 24 hours, particularly in the episodes pages. Will you be fine with that? I will be adding galleries to episode pages.
I prefer to work with the gallery on the page itself (perhaps under the Trivia section) however I'm expecting approx 150+ images for Episode 1, so if you feel that it's going to make the page too long then perhaps having a subpage would be better
Hmm ... 150 pictures feels like there might be a lot of "redundant" images, but it should be fine. Also, browse around some of the articles to see if any pictures already are on the Wiki. There shouldn't really be any screencaps for episode 1, maybe except for the Briar Weasels and some of Akatsuki's male avatar, though.
I removed a couple of photos I thought counted as redundant images. For example, we don't need five images of Shiroe using Mind Shock (I think that was the spell) on the Briar Weasels if just two or three could show the same thing.